Tips for Booking Award Tickets to Bali
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Bali is one of my favorite places in the world, and probably my favorite relaxation spot on earth – the sunsets, the people, the amazing hotels, and the vibe of Bali are unlike anywhere else I’ve been. When it comes to exotic relaxation destinations, the Maldives and Tahiti usually spring to peoples’ minds first. While I’m sure they’re beautiful, the issue is that they’re both fairly tough to get to, at least in true comfort.

 

If you’re like me and want the perfect combination of a great destination and great in-flight experience, Bali is for you, as it’s served by a few great airlines with great award availability.

Here are some of the best options for getting to Bali:

 

Cathay Pacific via Hong Kong (OneWorld)

Cathay Pacific is great about releasing premium cabin award space, unlike one of their biggest rivals, Singapore Airlines.

If you’re in the US you can fly Cathay Pacific to Hong Kong from any of their North American gateways (Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, Toronto, Vancouver, and Chicago as of September 1). All of these routes feature three-cabin products, meaning there’s first, business, and coach class.

On the routes from Chicago, San Francisco, and Toronto to Hong Kong, Cathay Pacific is amazing about releasing award space in first class, often two seats for many flights. Out of Los Angeles, New York, and Vancouver they’re also good about releasing award space, though often only one seat in first class at a time (though that’s not always the case). Regardless, given how small Cathay Pacific’s first class cabins are (six to nine seats depending on the type of aircraft), it’s a miracle that they release as much award space as they do.

Then Cathay Pacific flies nonstop from Hong Kong to Bali. This is about a four hour flight, and the good news is that it’s typically operated by a longhaul configured 747 featuring first, business, and coach class. The only “catch” is that they don’t actually sell first class on the flight, meaning even on a first class award you get business class, though it is a flat bed product.

But here’s a bit of a trick – day of departure at the airport, they’ll often assign business class passengers first class seats. They almost always grant OneWorld Emerald members (top tier elites) first class seats upon request, though often also connecting first class passengers. Now it’s worth noting that first class still gets business class service, though the seat is quite a bit more spacious.

 

How many miles does a Cathay Pacific award to Bali cost? (Updated after Avios devaluation) Using British Airways it’s 190,000 Avios points in business class or 285,000 miles in first class, via Hong Kong. Using American Airlines miles it’s 110,000 miles in business class or 135,000 miles in first class, with no free stopover in Hong Kong (the cost for that would be an additional 22,500 miles). Using Alaska Airlines miles it would be 100,000 miles in business class or 140,000 miles in first class with a free stopover in Hong Kong.

 

Thai Airways via Bangkok (Star Alliance)

For me the journey is almost as fun as the destination. If you’re like me and not afraid to take the long way if it means an enjoyable in-flight experience, this option is for you. Thai Airways flies from Bangkok to Bali, and as of October 30 the flight will be operated by a three cabin aircraft featuring first class.

Now, the flight from Bangkok to Bali is only about three hours, though as a first class passenger you still get the full ground experience in Bangkok. That means you get access to their amazing first class lounge, an hour-long full body massage in their spa, and escorted from the time you arrive at the airport to the moment you leave.

The issue is that Thai Airways’ only flight to the US is their service to Los Angeles, which doesn’t have a first class product. The way to maximize this award is to travel through Europe, a routing which most Star Alliance airlines allow on award tickets. Lufthansa has excellent first class award availability from the US to Europe (especially out of Charlotte, Dallas, Detroit, Denver, Orlando, and a few others), and then Thai has excellent award availability from their European gateways (especially London, Madrid, Munich, and Rome) to Bangkok.

The best part of the award is that airlines will let you make a stopover enroute, so you could stop in Europe or in Asia if you prefer. The cost of such an award varies based on the program. Through United/Continental such an award would cost 120,000 miles in business class or 140,000 miles in first class with a free stopover enroute. Through US Airways the same award would cost 120,000 miles in business class or 160,000 miles in first class with a free stopover at a Star Alliance hub enroute. Either way, this award is a real bargain.

 

I’d say the best value to “maximize” this award would be to fly something like Los Angeles to Munich to Bangkok to Bali and back all in first class on Lufthansa and Thai.

For those of you looking for a simpler itinerary that are fine with business class, Thai Airways has excellent award availability in business class from Los Angeles to Bangkok nonstop, which makes for a much quicker journey. Business class passengers still get a complimentary 30-minute massage in the spa in Bangkok enroute, and award availability on the connecting flight to Bali is excellent.

 

Korean Air via Seoul (SkyTeam)

If you’ve ever tried redeeming Delta miles, chances are you’ve been offered a 350,000 mile business class award ticket between the US and Europe, which can only make you shake your head.

The good news is that Delta’s partner Korean Air actually has pretty good business class award availability, especially out of their gateways in Los Angeles and Seattle, and also pretty decent award availability from Seoul to Bali.

The other good news is that this award only costs 120,000 Delta SkyMiles in business class. The bad news is that there’s no way to redeem Delta SkyMiles for first class on Korean Air. The other bad news is that Korean Air has blackout dates when booking through Delta, so if you’re looking to travel during a peak time, you can forget about it.

But other than that, this is actually a really good value. You’re also allowed a free stopover, so could spend some time in Seoul if you wanted.

Of all the options above, this is also the most difficult to book because there’s no easy way to search Korean Air award availability online. Instead you’re stuck calling Delta SkyMiles, and those agents often aren’t especially knowledgeable or efficient in searching Korean Air award availability.

Anyway, those are my favorite options. I still find Cathay Pacific to be the best option, given that they offer a direct, comfortable journey, and award availability is plentiful. The Star Alliance option would be my second choice, and possibly first choice if you have a lot of time on your hands and could benefit from a stopover. The third option on SkyTeam is hopefully only a last resort or if you only have Delta miles to burn.

Airline and Route

Award Cost

Notes

Cathay Pacific via Hong Kong

Business: 100K Alaska miles, 110K AA miles (no free stopover in HK), 190K BA Avios

 

First: 140K Alaska miles, 135K AA miles (no free stopover in HK), 285K BA Avios

BA: Book on ba.com

AA: Call (800) 882-8880

Alaska: Call (800) 307-6912

Cathay often releases 2 First Class award seats at a time from Chicago, San Francisco, Toronto

When to book: Best to book 6+ months before departure

Star Alliance to Europe then Thai Airways via Bangkok

Business: 120K US miles; 140K-160K United miles (see United Award Chart Devaluation)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First: 160K US Airways miles; 160K to 260K United miles

CO/UA: Book on continental.com or call United at (800) 864-8331

US Air: Call (800) 428-4322

Thai has good award availability from London, Madrid, Munich, and Rome to Bangkok

Business Class PAX receive 30-min. massage in spa in Bangkok

Lufthansa has good First Class award availability to Europe from Charlotte, Dallas, Detroit, Denver, Orlando

First Class PAX receive 1-hour massage in spa in Bangkok

When to book: Availability generally good, though best to book 3+ months before departure

Korean Air via Seoul

Business: 120K SkyMiles

Good award availability from LA and Seattle

Cannot search Korean Air award availability online; must call Delta at (800) 323-2323

When to book: As early as possible (schedule opens up 11 months out)

 

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Picture?type=large Bob M. commented 26 Jul 2011

Ben,
I'd be interested in reading a column about how you go about choosing which countries to visit. I understand what drives a lot of your decision-making from the airlines you favor (due to miles or favored product), but how much does the accessability of the actual country play into that for you?

Do you favor countries that don't require a pricey tourist visa, for example? I've seen you visit much of Europe and Asia, but do you stay away from Brazil, for example, because its tourist visa is fairly expensive?
Many travelers who may be going abroad for the first time could fall into this trap of not checking a country's visa requirements in advance, and literally being turned away at the airport because they don't have the proper visa ahead of time (as can happen with Americans who don't get a Brazilian visa in advance).
Maybe you can give readers some resources on how they can find entry/exit requirements for any and all countries.

Avatar_60_hilary Hilary Stockton commented 26 Jul 2011
Thanks for your comment Bob, and your response Ben--we'll definitely consider this for a future post/resource. There certainly are countries that have quite onerous and costly visa requirements, such as Russia (even for German citizens!) which don't even stop once you get there, since you have to register if you stay longer than 3 business days. Then there are others that cause visa headaches but that many travelers would probably not care to go to anyway, such as North Korea, Somalia, Turkmenistan, etc.
Picture?type=large Ben Schlappig commented 26 Jul 2011

@ Bob -- Thanks for the idea, I'll keep that in mind for a future post. Generally speaking I choose destinations based on trying to fill the gaps in places I've seen. Visa fees don't bother me that much since I have a German passport which gets me out of many of them (like Brazil). I'm more concerned about general safety and also the combination of decent flights/hotels combined with an interesting destination.

Picture?type=large Poley K. commented 26 Jul 2011

I concur about Cathay Pacific. I did YYZ-HKG-DPS in May/June on Alaska Miles. I booked about 11 months out so I was able to get the dates I wanted. Even in the last few months before departure i couldnt find many days that had 2x F seats avilable on the YYZ/HKG legs. I even had the fortunate experience of being one of two passengers in F  

Picture?type=large Nick H. commented 27 Jul 2011

When would you suggest visiting (or not visiting) Bali? I have a week or so coming up in Jan/Feb where I'd have time to visit. It looks like it is the low/rainy season though. Is there a time not to go or would you always suggest a trip?

Thanks 

Avatar_60_hilary Hilary Stockton commented 27 Jul 2011

Nick, you're right that Jan-Feb is the rainy season; it depends how tolerant you are of a couple hours or so of rain in the afternoon. If you opt for a siesta furing that time (which can be nice, given how hot it gets!) it may not be an issue. As we mention in our travel guide to Ubud, Bali it's generally drier in the north and east and sunnier in the south than in Ubud, so where you'll be factors in too. If you're not too bothered by some rain and don't need every day to be clear and sunny, I'd go for it!

Picture?type=large Steve C. commented 31 Jul 2011

I am in Bali this month. July and August are good times to visit - I found April nice also.

Picture?type=large Jenny H. commented 02 Sep 2011

Thanks for the great post.  Is there any way to book a premium cabin award ticket from SFO that allows me to go to both Bali and Koh Samui?  How would I do that and on which airline?  Thanks!!

Picture?type=large Ben Schlappig commented 02 Sep 2011

@ Jenny -- Generally that's tough since Koh Samui doesn't get all that much service and can typically only be serviced via one hub. For example, Thai flies from Bangkok to Koh Samui, though if you were on an award ticket and wanted to go to Bali as well, you couldn't do Los Angeles to Bangkok to Koh Samui to Bangkok to Bali, because you would be transitting the same hub twice. So generally you're best off just booking an award with a stopover in Bangkok, and then a separate ticket to Koh Samui.

Avatar_60_hilary Hilary Stockton commented 25 Oct 2011

Hi Ted, at least when I was searching for award space to Bali, there was plenty of business class availability for the Hong Kong-Bali segment, so the main bottleneck is the flight from the U.S. to Hong Kong. If you're flying from NYC and want the direct JFK-Hong Kong flight, I'd advise booking as far out as you can, preferably about a year in advance when the inventory is loaded. http://travelsort.com/blog/airlines-and-routes-with-first-and-business-class-award-availability-for-asia

As Ben wrote in his post on award availability to Asia, business class from SFO can be tough, but is better out of LAX: http://travelsort.com/blog/airlines-and-routes-with-first-and-business-class-award-availability-for-asia Hope this helps!

User_avatar_default สุภา ว. commented 18 Feb 2012
I notice Korean air charges a fuel "surcharge" on awards, and quite a bit. ( for oct 2012 flights) I booked a flight for my daughter LAX/HKT/BKK/LAX on KAL, they charged a total of ( fuel $360, and tax $115.40) and 137,500 miles. The same appx. route for me using AA miles on CX ( san/bkk/san) was 135000 miles, ( and the long haul flights are first class, short from hkg/bkk/hkg business class total cost $47. Quite a difference in cost IMHO. Any thoughts on this? Mike
User_avatar_default สุภา ว. commented 18 Feb 2012
I notice Korean air charges a fuel "surcharge" on awards, and quite a bit. ( for oct 2012 flights) I booked a flight for my daughter LAX/HKT/BKK/LAX on KAL, they charged a total of ( fuel $360, and tax $115.40) and 137,500 miles. The same appx. route for me using AA miles on CX ( san/bkk/san) was 135000 miles, ( and the long haul flights are first class, short from hkg/bkk/hkg business class total cost $47. Quite a difference in cost IMHO. Any thoughts on this? Mike
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